Answers to Jenn's Qs
Intro
1. What claim is Gibbard arguing for, in general?That identity can be contingent, and even though Kripke seems to successfully undermine the “account of necessary truth as a priori truth” and goes on to attack of reference based on contingent truths.
2. Translate Gibbard’s (1) [p. 100a] into plain English.
A statue is made up of a piece of clay. It is possible that the piece of clay exists and the statue exists and that they are not the same thing.
3. What is Kripke’s claim that Gibbard wants to focus on? Why? How does he use this in relation to his own claims?
Section I
4. What are “persistence criteria”? Give an example of persistence criteria using some object other than a statue or a lump of clay.
Persistence criteria are the specifications of when/how something of a given identity begins to and ceases to exist. An example would be automobile C—C starts to exist when all of its components are mechanically joined together and ceases to exist when the components are mechanically seperated.
5. What “persistence criteria” does Gibbard give to his piece of clay, c?
P comes into existence when all of its parts are stuck together without being attached to another piece of clay. It ceases to be when the pieces break away or are attached to another lump of clay. Wear is taken into account in this persistence criterion in that P will still be P over time, even if some of it wears away.
6. What “persistence criteria” does Gibbard want to count for his statue, s?
A statue comes into being when a piece of clay is shaped, persists in that shape, and changes in a slow, wear-related fashion.
7. Why does it matter that Gibbard specifies “I claim that as I have defined them, pieces of clay and clay statues are objects. That is to say, they can be designated with proper names, and the logic we ordinarily use will still apply.” [102a top]? Specifically, why does it matter that we can designate them with proper names?
It matters because he wants to talk about how the identity of proper names is contingent, and thus he must show how the identity between two objects, objects that can be named (rigidly designated) might be contingent. This is important because of if a named thing such as “Goliath” is made up of another named thing such as “Lumpl” it starts to suggest that these names are not simply names for the same thing, and that their identities are divisible.
8. How does Gibbard’s case of squeezing Goliath before he dries show that Goliath = Lumpl is a case of contingent identity?
This is a case of identity because there is a time when G and L seem to be the same thing, but that when G ceases to exist L can persist to exist. If they were necessarily identical, when G ceased to exist, L would too, but this does not seem to be the case.
Section II
9. What are concrete things, for Gibbard?
Things that are made up in a simple, systematic way from “fundamental physical entities.”
Section III
10. What in Kripke’s account of proper names makes it follow that Goliath cannot be identical with Lumpl?
Kripke’s position is that proper names are rigid designators of a particular thing. Thus is G and L refer to the same thing in one world, they must refer to the same thing in every possible counterfactual. Gibbard gives his example of where in W1 they would not be, thus they could not be identical in Kripke’s view.
11. What qualification does Gibbard want to give to Kripke’s idea of rigid- and nonrigid-designators? What “rough theory of proper names emerges”? [104b]
We have established that are counterfactual situations where G and L would not be identical. In cross world situations it doesn’t make sense to talk about G or L as referring to the same thing; they are different kinds of things. Gibbard wants to add in this idea of “sortals,” where the kind of thing (statues, pieces of clay) are necessary in talking about identity—an object’s identity must be an identity of a kind of thing.
12. What property of the statue Goliath (or the clay “Lumpl”) allows it to be identified as the same statue (or lump) in other possible worlds?
G in W0 has a common origin with G in W1 (they have the same beginning).
13. In words other than Gibbard’s, what is his theory of reference for cases of things denoted by proper names that branch in other possible worlds? [105a]
Gibbard’s theory of reference depends upon objects such as G having a common origin; G might be left to persist in W0 or squashed in W1, but they have a common origin point which makes the G in W0 and the G in W1 the same statue; the point at which W1’s history changes is a “branching” point.
14. Give a (simple) example of a causal chain of reference for a proper name other than Gibbard’s explanation of Goliath and “Lumpl.”
15. How does his example of “Portia” show that “the persistence criteria invoked help determine what entity bears that name”? [105b bottom]
Section IV
16. Does Gibbard do justice to Kripke’s view about rigid- and nonrigid-designators? What I mean is that he brushes off Kripke’s argument of rigid and nonrigid-designators fairly quickly in saying that his [Kripke’s] argument only shows that designators are rigid with respect to a sortal.
G writes: “To show it [here is he talking about K’s Nixon example] rigid independently of any sortal, one would have to go beyond what Kripke says in the passage I have quoted, and show that Nixon could not have been a different entity from the one he in fact is. For that purpose, the ‘simple intuitive test’ Kripke offers will not help. We speak and think of ‘the same person’ but not of ‘the same entity’” [106b].
I am curious about G’s dismissal of K’s Nixon example, because it seems to me to be obvious that Nixon could not have been a different entity from the one he in fact is. At the very least, it seems like in class discussions there is a lot of disagreement about what makes a person a person; however, whenever Florka asks if he could be (say) a tomato and still be him the answer is usually a resounding “no.” Or, to quote a classmate’s blog: “Consider what makes you, you. It seems that we can’t pick out one specific property, save for your humanity…” (thanks Stan - 9 March post). Therefore, why does G think that K’s example does not show this?
Gibbard thinks that Kripke’s view leads to the strange statement “Nixon could not have been a different entity than the entity he was” and this is dangerous because in our everyday intuitions (Gibbard’s referring to K’s simple intuitive test), we are not thinking about Nixon in the broad sense of an entity, but rather with respect to his humanity. Gibbard is suggesting that this entity question is irrelevant because we aren’t questioning Nixon’s existence when we ask the question ‘Might Nixon have been a different man from the man that he in fact was?’ Gibbard also suggests that this question of an entity’s identity being rigid is complex enough to warrant systems that characterize the identity of an entity and “comparing their implications.” Nixon’s identity is rigid in respect to the human sortal, but it is nonsensical to talk about the rigidness of his identity unless we are identifying him with a specific mode of existence.
1. What claim is Gibbard arguing for, in general?That identity can be contingent, and even though Kripke seems to successfully undermine the “account of necessary truth as a priori truth” and goes on to attack of reference based on contingent truths.
2. Translate Gibbard’s (1) [p. 100a] into plain English.
A statue is made up of a piece of clay. It is possible that the piece of clay exists and the statue exists and that they are not the same thing.
3. What is Kripke’s claim that Gibbard wants to focus on? Why? How does he use this in relation to his own claims?
Section I
4. What are “persistence criteria”? Give an example of persistence criteria using some object other than a statue or a lump of clay.
Persistence criteria are the specifications of when/how something of a given identity begins to and ceases to exist. An example would be automobile C—C starts to exist when all of its components are mechanically joined together and ceases to exist when the components are mechanically seperated.
5. What “persistence criteria” does Gibbard give to his piece of clay, c?
P comes into existence when all of its parts are stuck together without being attached to another piece of clay. It ceases to be when the pieces break away or are attached to another lump of clay. Wear is taken into account in this persistence criterion in that P will still be P over time, even if some of it wears away.
6. What “persistence criteria” does Gibbard want to count for his statue, s?
A statue comes into being when a piece of clay is shaped, persists in that shape, and changes in a slow, wear-related fashion.
7. Why does it matter that Gibbard specifies “I claim that as I have defined them, pieces of clay and clay statues are objects. That is to say, they can be designated with proper names, and the logic we ordinarily use will still apply.” [102a top]? Specifically, why does it matter that we can designate them with proper names?
It matters because he wants to talk about how the identity of proper names is contingent, and thus he must show how the identity between two objects, objects that can be named (rigidly designated) might be contingent. This is important because of if a named thing such as “Goliath” is made up of another named thing such as “Lumpl” it starts to suggest that these names are not simply names for the same thing, and that their identities are divisible.
8. How does Gibbard’s case of squeezing Goliath before he dries show that Goliath = Lumpl is a case of contingent identity?
This is a case of identity because there is a time when G and L seem to be the same thing, but that when G ceases to exist L can persist to exist. If they were necessarily identical, when G ceased to exist, L would too, but this does not seem to be the case.
Section II
9. What are concrete things, for Gibbard?
Things that are made up in a simple, systematic way from “fundamental physical entities.”
Section III
10. What in Kripke’s account of proper names makes it follow that Goliath cannot be identical with Lumpl?
Kripke’s position is that proper names are rigid designators of a particular thing. Thus is G and L refer to the same thing in one world, they must refer to the same thing in every possible counterfactual. Gibbard gives his example of where in W1 they would not be, thus they could not be identical in Kripke’s view.
11. What qualification does Gibbard want to give to Kripke’s idea of rigid- and nonrigid-designators? What “rough theory of proper names emerges”? [104b]
We have established that are counterfactual situations where G and L would not be identical. In cross world situations it doesn’t make sense to talk about G or L as referring to the same thing; they are different kinds of things. Gibbard wants to add in this idea of “sortals,” where the kind of thing (statues, pieces of clay) are necessary in talking about identity—an object’s identity must be an identity of a kind of thing.
12. What property of the statue Goliath (or the clay “Lumpl”) allows it to be identified as the same statue (or lump) in other possible worlds?
G in W0 has a common origin with G in W1 (they have the same beginning).
13. In words other than Gibbard’s, what is his theory of reference for cases of things denoted by proper names that branch in other possible worlds? [105a]
Gibbard’s theory of reference depends upon objects such as G having a common origin; G might be left to persist in W0 or squashed in W1, but they have a common origin point which makes the G in W0 and the G in W1 the same statue; the point at which W1’s history changes is a “branching” point.
14. Give a (simple) example of a causal chain of reference for a proper name other than Gibbard’s explanation of Goliath and “Lumpl.”
15. How does his example of “Portia” show that “the persistence criteria invoked help determine what entity bears that name”? [105b bottom]
Section IV
16. Does Gibbard do justice to Kripke’s view about rigid- and nonrigid-designators? What I mean is that he brushes off Kripke’s argument of rigid and nonrigid-designators fairly quickly in saying that his [Kripke’s] argument only shows that designators are rigid with respect to a sortal.
G writes: “To show it [here is he talking about K’s Nixon example] rigid independently of any sortal, one would have to go beyond what Kripke says in the passage I have quoted, and show that Nixon could not have been a different entity from the one he in fact is. For that purpose, the ‘simple intuitive test’ Kripke offers will not help. We speak and think of ‘the same person’ but not of ‘the same entity’” [106b].
I am curious about G’s dismissal of K’s Nixon example, because it seems to me to be obvious that Nixon could not have been a different entity from the one he in fact is. At the very least, it seems like in class discussions there is a lot of disagreement about what makes a person a person; however, whenever Florka asks if he could be (say) a tomato and still be him the answer is usually a resounding “no.” Or, to quote a classmate’s blog: “Consider what makes you, you. It seems that we can’t pick out one specific property, save for your humanity…” (thanks Stan - 9 March post). Therefore, why does G think that K’s example does not show this?
Gibbard thinks that Kripke’s view leads to the strange statement “Nixon could not have been a different entity than the entity he was” and this is dangerous because in our everyday intuitions (Gibbard’s referring to K’s simple intuitive test), we are not thinking about Nixon in the broad sense of an entity, but rather with respect to his humanity. Gibbard is suggesting that this entity question is irrelevant because we aren’t questioning Nixon’s existence when we ask the question ‘Might Nixon have been a different man from the man that he in fact was?’ Gibbard also suggests that this question of an entity’s identity being rigid is complex enough to warrant systems that characterize the identity of an entity and “comparing their implications.” Nixon’s identity is rigid in respect to the human sortal, but it is nonsensical to talk about the rigidness of his identity unless we are identifying him with a specific mode of existence.
